ID : tucurui? rubrolineta? else ?

[denilson59]

Hello,
sold for ap. tucurui 8(
thanks for helping

PS : sorry pictures from my cam

 

[Mike Wise]

It doesn't really look like A. tucurui to me, but I'd need much better photos to identify the species.

 

[denilson59]

ap. commbrae ?

 

[Mike Wise]

Much better photos for ID. It could be A. tucurui, but I've never seen such one with a lot of dark patterns on the head. The abdominal rows of spots are wider than on a typical tucurui, too. I'd also expect to see more distinct rows of spots above the lateral band. They just don't look like wild tucurui. Maybe they're domestic and some of the typical pattern has been bred out of them. I'd suggest giving them a week or two in a good tank and then comparing them with photos of tucurui, or sending more photos.

 

[denilson59]

Thanks a lot
i ll wait

 

[mixmixi]

They look like A. commbrae to me. :/

 

[Mike Wise]

Maybe A. commbrae, but I don't thinks so. Commbrae shows a distinct double caudal patch/spot. The photos don't show this feature.

 

[denilson59]

poor video this afternoon

 

[denilson59]

an idea ?

 

[peterclarke666]

unsure if its a tucurui this was my male

 

[Mike Wise]

Looks like A. tucurui to me, Peter.

 

[peterclarke666]

Looks like A. tucurui to me, Peter.

sorry mike shouldve put unsure if his is a tucurui i know mine were as they were from mark breeze

 

[denilson59]

any idea now ? Commbrae ?

 

[denilson59]

his child :

 

[MAL.]

For me, it looks A.inconspicua.

 

[denilson59]

differences with commbrae ?

 

[Mike Wise]

Start counting dorsal spines! Apistogramma inconspicua has only 15 instead of the normal (for apistos) 16 dorsal fin spines. It is somewhat deeper bodied than A. commbrae and lacks this species' generally visible abdominal stripes. The lateral band also runs higher on the flanks and ends on Bar 6, in front of the caudal patch.

 

[MAL.]

Thank　you, Mike!
I 'm happy to talk with you!
I said A.inconspicua because of the following:

1. I was thinking A.inconspicua's lateral band runs more mid-position than A.commbrae.
2. The face looks like A.inconspicua or caeti-complex.

For my understanding, A.commbrae and A.inconspicua have 15 dorsal hard spines.
it looks at least 16 spines for my eyes.. (I'm not familiar to counting that)
and the caudal spot is not typical for this group fishes as you said.
Now I cannot say this one A.inconspicua or A.commbrae..
How can we call this one "Ap.sp." ?

 

[denilson59]

i'll count... don't move baby don't move !

 

[Mike Wise]

The best way is to get a good sharp photo of the fish. Right now, none of the photos/videos are good enough for an identification.