What is my apisto?

[Walshy]

hey guys. i am new to this forum and hopefully i am posting in a right place. i have recently begun getting into breeding apistos and ordered one of the more rare apistos the uaupesi. what i got i am happy with.. its a wonderfull looking fish.. but i am skeptical if it is a uaupesi.. if it is not. if anyone could tell me what it is that would be appreciated. the photo qualities arent great.. and i will try to get some better ones. but these are all the photos i currently have. thanks in advance.

 

[Walshy]

one of those pictures is of my female beanchi. cant figure out how to get it off there lol.. sorry bout that. from scrolling through this forum..

i think i have bitaeniata. if anyone could could confirm for me that would be great. cheers

 

[aquaticclarity]

Better pictures are needed for an ID but the fish is not uaupesi! Bitaeniata is a good guess at this point though. The spikey dorsal fin isn't found on uaupesi but is on bitaeniata.

Jeff

 

[animalmgc]

caucatoides would be my guess the female looks to be baenschi

 

[Walshy]

Yeh. I was considering that it was a cacatoid. But it has no red anywhere. It's just blue/grey. And I am pretty sure most cacatoids are always with red or orange strongly through their fins. Bit disappointed that I didn't get what I ordered because I payed a lot for them. I will try and get some better photos. Thanks for the replies

 

[a.d.wood]

Yeh. I was considering that it was a cacatoid. But it has no red anywhere. It's just blue/grey. And I am pretty sure most cacatoids are always with red or orange strongly through their fins. Bit disappointed that I didn't get what I ordered because I payed a lot for them. I will try and get some better photos. Thanks for the replies

While the statement for red colour is true for the domestic strains it's certainly not the case with the wild forms, pictured below is a wild pair of cac's from the Picuruyacu region

The serrations along the dorsal fin of your fish look to extend for a fair length of the fin which would fit with both cac's and A. bitaeniata, I would suggest your fish is A. bitaeniata as the mouth just doesn't look heavy enough for a cac.

Andrew

 

[aquaticclarity]

Also, look at the anal fin (bottom back fin) pattern. That is not a pattern of a cacatuoides but it fits bitaeniata. I still would like better pictures of the fish to make a positive ID though.

 

[Mike Wise]

I have to agree with Jeff: photos aren't good enough for a positive ID, but A. bitaeniata would be my guess.

 

[aquaticclarity]

And I have to ask what's up with the pictures? I though Australia was the land down under...not the land sideways???

 

[Walshy]

lol. im not sure why they come up sideways. they are taken off my iphone. and when you view them on the comp they are the right way up.. but then upload sideways.

i sat patiently for half hour or so with my phone to get some better photoes and finally he gave me some decent ones. i am almost sure hes a biateniata. i saw a photo of one that looks almost identical to him so id say thats what i have. they are still fairly hard to come by in vic so i guess i havnt lucked out lol. thanks for all the input but confirmation with the clearer pics would still be apreciated.

 

[aquaticclarity]

MUCH better pictures! Yes, bitaeniata male of a blue form.

 

[Mike Wise]

Definitely, A. bitaeniata, one of the Peruvian populations.

 

[Walshy]

Thanks heaps guys

 

[animalmgc]

ok I now agree with Jeff